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all I recall is several people using the

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word Roswell

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and that must be where the crash occurs

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in and then they brought them to the

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other place it looked like an at an

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airport facility where there was like a

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rather good-sized building a hangar

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where they had the spaceship and that

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where they had the bodies

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was it an intact ship

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no

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was there anything written on the ship

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no

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kidneys by the time I saw it can you

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describe what it looked like yeah did

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you touch these yeah they didn't let me

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do that but the other people were

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committed to do that because they were

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very curious about knowing what kind of

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materials they were

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but when you looked at it and you were

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close to it it was rather dull

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so it had to be energy reflective or

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translucent or

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glowing

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and it was not too high it was sort of

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easily one-fourth the size of the room

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were you able to go inside

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no I wanted to but the others did go

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inside yeah they went inside I was not

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permitted to do that not being one of

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the others I was just one of the Gophers

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you know going for this going for that

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that was nobody

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but they went inside they also wanted to

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see the method of propulsion they were

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if they had any other

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types of control devices or

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communication devices or what kind of

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even things they had for the journey in

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other words if they had come such a long

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distance how are they able to do that

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and so forth you know what you and I

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would call food

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or respiratory gases you know what did

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they use they were very interested in

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identifying that

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it looked like in

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some of them told me yes and it's it's

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very much oddly like a lot of science

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fiction movies today

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a lot of equipment very trim

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all along the perimeter

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things that would come up from the floor

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automatically pods that would come out

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can you tell us a little bit about the

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the beings and

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communicating pathic what kind of

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information was given did they ask you

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them several questions and they asked us

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several questions not myself

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individually or me particularly but the

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people I was people I was with

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conditions that terminated what we call

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or stresses on our body to terminate our

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asked let me see if I can remember

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I thought I'd never forget some of this

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I don't know why my mind is so blank on

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some of these things

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they asked a lot of the scientists uh

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best system of going out into the

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atmosphere or going into the ocean and

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How Deeply we had penetrated

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intellectually inferior

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then how was it that they crashed was

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there any information about that if they

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have such technology how is it that

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something had gone wrong and that was

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them we asked them what they ate we

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asked them what kind of gases they

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needed we asked them about their life

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support their

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propulsion we asked them what there was

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things things like that and we asked

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them what they thought went wrong

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all even coming here why did they come

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to visit us

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they're so obviously Superior why would

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they want to come to Earth what did they

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can't say here see or something uh

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they were exploring

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intergalactic Galactic base what we

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uh search a better Source than where

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entirely unsuitable too and that's why

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not at their level at all they had

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nothing to fear from us

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a little bit now

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but they still didn't know what happened

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to their propulsion system that would

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have brought them down well they didn't

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exactly know they knew that it was a

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malfunction of something but they they

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didn't know and in fact One Beat Just on

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the verge of trying to

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go with a couple engineers and

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scientists into it in more detail when

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he's succumbed it's a company

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and they couldn't drink in there were

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they only one ship or did they were they

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just a there by themselves as a scout

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ship for what were there any others in

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the Armada

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they claimed there were eight that was a

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Maverick that somehow

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physician or something I don't know what

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it was a Time Warp or what that they got

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the direction where the others were even

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one ship he claimed crashed in Siberia

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in the same group thanks of course he

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didn't know what it was called but we

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told them it's the United States

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did he say where they were from and what

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star system you said and were they from

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star system name was absolute gibberish

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government people were there other

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scientists and the people there were

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military people there were scientists

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both men and women many people

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the scientist you were with to that

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even fifth or sixth line interest in it

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and part of his Entourage so to speak

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and that's why I was there and I was

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how did you feel when you saw this and

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there was somebody

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untruth on us

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almost in part of some science fiction

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betrayal I mean you know some set or

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craft or did they deactivate it after it

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other work you've done did you ever have

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a security clearance no do you I've had

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a paper by the government

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on the ultimate structure of matter and

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National Academy of Science but I have

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had no security clearance

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do you remember what they call that

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clearance that you had did you have did

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I don't even recall that except A5

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I don't I don't I'd have to look that up

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government or was it a university grant

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grant

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to him at that University at that time

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to have outstanding students from around

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picked to work with him that particular

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summer in nuclear chemistry

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you while you worked there special

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lucky you come on I was his pet I have

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I have president that there were 29 and

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I had some Were You There When the only

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girl either

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when the the last alien crash died were

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you there at that point in time

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no I wasn't I was uh I was back at the

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motel in a city nearby and I had been

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told and I was pretty would be able to

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keep being alive

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uh they had no nose but they had

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markings where a nose

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opening would be

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they had eyes and a mouth no eyebrows

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they had ears

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they had a very forehead and I'd say

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relative to the rest of their body

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and the ones that I saw were

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approximately maybe uh

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five feet tall

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five feet five something that that

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they're small by what a mannered on

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Earth

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what did their eyes look like

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Their Eyes Were enormous they were

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very prominent they were the most

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obvious thing you'd see on their face

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were there any pupils

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I noticed but I never saw any pupils

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were almost uh

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brown black they were very very dark

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were they all the same color in terms of

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the oh yes

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did they have any kind of clothing on

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yes they had suits on what did they look

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the only thing was though that I didn't

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recognize the fabric

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it didn't look like any fabric that I

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would know as a chemist or even today

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that I would recognize was there any

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what about their shoes

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their shoes were all looked like they

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were connected they were in one piece

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and their their hands

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their limbs were covered

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you know right down to what we would

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call the wrist

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what color was it and did it have was

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any kind of trim

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you mean the suit itself

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oh it had like an Insignia on it

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maybe I'd have to draw it for you it

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not an artist but it looks like

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I didn't know what it meant

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it's the Insignia the Insignia was

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almost in the middle

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the Garment it wasn't off on the side

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like we would expect to be did they need

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any special breathing apparatuses or

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were they did they appear to be

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breathing on their own and that was just

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amazing things that we were starting

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about

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where they could apparently survive in

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our atmosphere

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and they had apparently come such a long

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way

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did they seem to indicate that the atmos

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similar to our breathing

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they asked us about that and we asked

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them about it yes they seem to indicate

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yes that it was quite similar it was not

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identical to ours though because they

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claimed they had made tests

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did they tell you anything about because

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of their lifestyle was there

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we tried to find that out before we

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could they really

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we were very interested in not

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antagonizing them at all so to the point

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where we had them answer too many of

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ours so we never really found that out

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we just knew that they don't live all

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above ground according to what they told

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a lot of there's

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what we would call Subterranean did they

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seem repelled by our parents since they

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look so different

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oh they they thought we were very odd

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since you indicated that they were

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either androgynous or had no sex did

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they mention how they procreated

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that was another thing which we asked

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them about and we couldn't pin down

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either but no that they had just like we

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have at all

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did they tell you how they reproduce

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did they refuse or they just nobody

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broke them

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no they agree with that so they really

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were kind of limited in what they felt

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was appropriate to tell you

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I would say so yes I would say they were

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uh did it seemed like they wanted to

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have any kind of continual contact with

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this planet

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very definitely yes however they had